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Old 11-09-2015, 05:50 PM   #41
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Re: The Rundown - a Mexico Adventure Rally, April 9-16, 2016

For those with both a big adventure bike and a dual sport bike, here are some thoughts on the topic of which bike to choose...

If you don't plan on riding any dirt, then the choice is fairly easy - pick the adventure bike and enjoy all the riding.

If you only plan on riding easy dirt and not a lot of it - pick the bike you like best.

If you want to ride a lot of dirt and maximize your fun in the dirt, pick the dual sport bike.

There won't be a lot of freeway on this trip. There is a long section between McAllen and Ciudad Victoria but beyond that we won't be spending hours droning down the highway.

Most of the paved riding to and from will be about 70 mph max. If you decide to ride your adventure bike which can cruise much faster than 70 mph but you ride with a group that includes dual sport bikes you won't be riding faster than 70 mph if you want to stay with the group. That negates the speed advantage of the adventure bike for this part of the ride there and back.

Once we reach the mountains you will spend 99% of your time at considerably less than 70 mph. You might average 40 mph on the twisty pavement in the area.

If you can deal with riding your dual sport bike at 70 mph for a few hours on the way there and back, then you will likely be happy you did so once you reach the dirt.

Note that my preference is always to err on the side of the lighter, more dirt worthy bike. If I and my dual sport can handle the amount and speed of the paved sections of the route then I opt for the dual sport bike. I'm willing to give up a little highway capability for more dirt capability upon arriving at the destination. But that's just my preference. Your mileage may vary.
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Old 11-09-2015, 06:56 PM   #42
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There is a long section between McAllen and Ciudad Victoria but beyond that we won't be spending hours droning down the highway.
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Old 11-09-2015, 07:29 PM   #43
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Re: The Rundown - a Mexico Adventure Rally, April 9-16, 2016

Who from DFW will be trailering down to the border and has room for a bike and me?
If not I will be taking my trailer and have room for a few bikes and body's.
This is all up in the air until I get the Okay from the wife that I can go.
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Old 11-09-2015, 07:36 PM   #44
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Re: The Rundown - a Mexico Adventure Rally, April 9-16, 2016

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Who from DFW will be trailering down to the border and has room for a bike and me?
If not I will be taking my trailer and have room for a few bikes and body's.
This is all up in the air until I get the Okay from the wife that I can go.
Maybe me. Unless I Tenere it.
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Old 11-09-2015, 07:51 PM   #45
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Re: The Rundown - a Mexico Adventure Rally, April 9-16, 2016

I am in.
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Old 11-09-2015, 08:01 PM   #46
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Re: The Rundown - a Mexico Adventure Rally, April 9-16, 2016

I will be coming from DFW and would be interested in sharing expenses to trailer my bike there. Jeff, I will be happy to join you and share expenses, assuming you can make it. I don't have a trailer myself.
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Old 11-11-2015, 11:53 PM   #47
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Re: The Rundown - a Mexico Adventure Rally, April 9-16, 2016

Wow, 20 folks already committing to try to make this happen!!! This is gonna be a good one.
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Old 11-12-2015, 06:07 AM   #48
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Wow, 20 folks already committing to try to make this happen!!! This is gonna be a good one.
After the trip, 10 of them will permanently move to the valley between Tilaco and Agua Zarca and not return
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Old 11-12-2015, 07:46 AM   #49
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Re: The Rundown - a Mexico Adventure Rally, April 9-16, 2016

Trailboss do any of your tracks or proposed rides take you east between Escanalilla and Pinal de Amoles off of 120 S. Of Jalpan ?
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Trailboss do any of your tracks or proposed rides take you east between Escanalilla and Pinal de Amoles off of 120 S. Of Jalpan ?
Yes. There is a dual sport ride that goes west from Jalpan, past Escanalilla and Pinal de Amoles, to Carmargo and then loops north and east on dirt, eventually ending up back at Jalpan. We rode this particular route during the recon this past May. I have also planned a 300 mile pavement only loop that includes Hwy 120 west of Jalpan.

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Old 11-12-2015, 08:46 AM   #51
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Yes. There is a dual sport ride that goes west from Jalpan, past Escanalilla and Pinal de Amoles, to Carmargo and then loops north and east on dirt, eventually ending up back at Jalpan. We rode this particular route during the recon this past May. I have also planned a 300 mile pavement only loop that includes Hwy 120 west of Jalpan.

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Great ! I just want to explore around that area, take some pictures etc. Everytime I tried to go through there in October I would get into the higher mountains & would get rained on & fog so thick you couldn't see 10 feet. The place had an awesome Alpine smell to it & I just did not get to see much of it. Got to find the spot I'm going to move to.
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Old 11-12-2015, 09:54 AM   #52
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Great ! I just want to explore around that area, take some pictures etc. Everytime I tried to go through there in October I would get into the higher mountains & would get rained on & fog so thick you couldn't see 10 feet. The place had an awesome Alpine smell to it & I just did not get to see much of it. Got to find the spot I'm going to move to.
Where I'm talking about is East of Escanelilla and Pinal de Amoles. There are a few mountain top roads that go abt 30 miles East of 120
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The place had an awesome Alpine smell to it
I suppose one of those pine needle pillows tucked inside your riding jacket won't cut it
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Great ! I just want to explore around that area, take some pictures etc. Everytime I tried to go through there in October I would get into the higher mountains & would get rained on & fog so thick you couldn't see 10 feet. The place had an awesome Alpine smell to it & I just did not get to see much of it. Got to find the spot I'm going to move to.
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I suppose one of those pine needle pillows tucked inside your riding jacket won't cut it
Wouldn't be the same as being there. Goat roasting on a fire. Cold Victoria in my hand. & the sound of thumpers way off in the distance....
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Goat roasting on a fire.

Cold Victoria in my hand.

The sound of thumpers way off in the distance....
The sound of the Eagle's Don Henley singing Hotel California came into my head when I arranged the above quote as lyrics

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The sound of the Eagle's Done Henley singing Hotel California came into my head when I arranged the above quote as lyrics
Oh yea......you can checkout anytime you like.....but you can never leave !
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hahaha thread readers can't get Don Henley's voice out of their heads now

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you put the lime in the coconut...
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And now for something completely different:

Hotel California by Vocal Sampling

Quite amazing. We'll attempt to form a similar group in Jalpan
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