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Old 10-08-2016, 02:35 PM   #441
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Re: 2016 MexTrek Galeana #5, Oct 19th - 23rd 2016

received my guidebook and maps today
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Old 10-08-2016, 08:18 PM   #442
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Re: 2016 MexTrek Galeana #5, Oct 19th - 23rd 2016

For those who are interested in the legal minutia of things, a friendly reminder that transport of motorcycles in, on or behind a four wheeled vehicle renders those motorcycles as recreational vehicles under Mexican law.

What this means is that under Mexican law, those motorcycles may be ridden off road only, and by off road, dirt roads do not qualify.

The end result for those following statistical odds may mean little risk, but however small it may be, know the following:

(1) Insurance claims can be denied if it is discovered that the vehicle was not registered as a the primary on the TVIP. Which as a carried or towed vehicle it will not. In other words, if you press to test on your Mexico motorcycle insurance, know the hand you're playing if you make the call.

(2) Legal consequence increases even though the risk of legal involvement may remain statistically close to nil. In other words, you probably might not hit anybody, but if you do and get caught, know the hand you chose to play and play accordingly.

(3) Checkpoint Charlie: will your TVIP be inspected and will you be discovered to be technically operating a motorcycle outside the law? Again, the chances may be very low. Again, if you're caught, the advice is to remember you are in a disadvantageous position so you won't be able to play the haughty high road with the cop.

Having said all of this, I rode an unregistered dirt bike off road from Durango to Mazatlan and back again. But I knew the risk outright and chose to take it.

It's those who have no idea of the risk they're taking that I'm addressing this to, however small in reality that risk may be. If you choose to truck your bike to Galeana and then ride it on a road dirt or not, you are taking some measure of risk. How wide that risk aperture is to you and whether you choose to take it is up to you.
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Old 10-08-2016, 11:01 PM   #443
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Re: 2016 MexTrek Galeana #5, Oct 19th - 23rd 2016

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For those who are interested in the legal minutia of things, a friendly reminder
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are taking some measure of risk. How wide that risk aperture is to you and whether you choose to take it is up to you.
Good follow-up to my post. Unfortunately I neglected to mention the legal
aspects of carrying the bike to Galeana, which you articulated quite well. I
agree with you on the points that you make. It is good data to know for
those that may be considering trucking versus riding.

I also want to clarify that we did not just go blind or "wing it" ... I have
ridden in many foreign countries and extensively in Baja. My experience with
mainland Mexico is quite a bit less and even though many will tell you that
Baja is a different world than mainland it is in fact quite similar in many ways
related to what we do.

So, we understand the risk of trucking bikes to Galeana. The risk was assessed
to be "statistically close to nil" as you stated. Granted, that is not the same
as zero risk, but close enough that we accept it and proceed. Also, as
responsible riders we take steps to further minimize that risk by riding in a
sane and respectful manner when on paved roads or in populated areas. We
rode by many cops in Galeana and the surrounding area and what we got
from them was smiles and waves as we passed by. I expected nothing else,
because of how we conduct ourselves.

Because it has been used as a base for dual sport and offroad riding for some
time now I believe the situation in Galeana to be somewhat similar to Baja in
that they know why we are there, and unless we do stupid acts such as ride
wheelies through the town square or spray roost and dust all over kids
walking to school they are just not going to mess with us. They have better
things to do than check our papers without cause.

If you give them cause, well that is a different story. You can be the judge
on how likely that is to happen based on how you normally act, and of course
nobody can predict if an accident will happen. But riding at 10 mph through
town to get to the dirt trails leading to the middle of nowhere I consider the
chances of that to be quite low also.

I guess the point of all this is if you are the straight-arrow type that is
uncomfortable with any legal risk the best advice is ride the bike from the
border to Galeana.
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Old 10-08-2016, 11:12 PM   #444
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You and I are on the same page
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Old 10-08-2016, 11:49 PM   #445
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Re: 2016 MexTrek Galeana #5, Oct 19th - 23rd 2016

Also got my guidebook amd maps today. Thanks!!
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Old 10-09-2016, 12:25 AM   #446
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It will be dusty. Some wear goggles. I use a dual sport helmet and back off when I'm not leading. No reason to ride in the dust.
same here, and a dual sport, u can eat n drink n show ur face to that mexican federal agent who relates better than talkin to ur eyes n a muffled voice
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Old 10-09-2016, 12:27 PM   #447
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Re: 2016 MexTrek Galeana #5, Oct 19th - 23rd 2016

Peter, did you happen to send me the maps? I know i told you i already had the guidebook, but i don't have maps..
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Old 10-09-2016, 12:43 PM   #448
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Re: 2016 MexTrek Galeana #5, Oct 19th - 23rd 2016

got my maps and book. thanks
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Re: 2016 MexTrek Galeana #5, Oct 19th - 23rd 2016

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Peter, did you happen to send me the maps? I know i told you i already had the guidebook, but i don't have maps..
I asked Richard if he could mail just maps. If he can't, I can give you a copy in Houston this weekend.
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Old 10-09-2016, 04:53 PM   #450
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The parking at the hotel is small though, so if a ton of guys decide to show up in trucks it ain't gonna work

There was no 20km checkpoint...Trip back was uneventful. Two checkpoints on 40 between China
and Reynosa, one military and the other police.
We park tow vehicles in Mission. Bikes only to Galeana. The local police allow us to park all bikes in front of the hotel in the main square where they are well lit, secure, with 24/7 police milling about as the police station is on the corner.

The 20 KM checkpoint is hit or miss. Near China there have been many reports of military and police checkpoints. They skip the paperwork and are just looking for gang activity and contraband.

Glad you had a good trip to Galeana. And thanks for the ride report.

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I asked Richard if he could mail just maps. If he can't, I can give you a copy in Houston this weekend.
Okay cool. Let me know
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Old 10-10-2016, 12:06 AM   #452
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Re: 2016 MexTrek Galeana #5, Oct 19th - 23rd 2016

Shadman made fun of my A-La-Paris Hilton travel prep post on FB. Peter, I said it before, i'll say it again. I need my 3 sets of gear for morning, afternoon, and evening, plus, my korean ramen, chef set, boom box, and most importantly, a space to load up my full collection of Don Julio on the way





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Jcatdrz, maps will be in the mail today.

Mark, my apologies. I didn't know Don Julio was in the plans. All good. Carry on.
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Jcatdrz, maps will be in the mail today.

Mark, my apologies. I didn't know Don Julio was in the plans. All good. Carry on.
Excellent man. Thanks!
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Re: 2016 MexTrek Galeana #5, Oct 19th - 23rd 2016

with just over a week to go, is anyone thinking about grouping up for the ride to the boarder?
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with just over a week to go, is anyone thinking about grouping up for the ride to the boarder?
Guess most people are arranging small group cells.
I have Joeybaila, and David Shin. We will load 2 bikes on the truck bed, and 1 on the hitch-bike mount. This way we avoid bringing a trailer.
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Re: 2016 MexTrek Galeana #5, Oct 19th - 23rd 2016

Anyone in the FW area that needs Peso`s, there is a Wells Fargo on Hulen at Bellaire that stocks them..............
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Anyone in the FW area that needs Peso`s, there is a Wells Fargo on Hulen at Bellaire that stocks them..............
I plan to just get mine at the border. You guys that have done his before recommend getting them beforehand?
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Old 10-11-2016, 11:48 AM   #459
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I'm hearing chatter about parking vehicles, trailers etc.
If you need a place to park Truck / Trailer in Mission try Oleander Acres RV park. They will charge you a ridiculously low storage fee to park in an empty RV spot. Lots of room, quiet & secure (there are lots of older snowbirds that winter here).
I always park an RV here & never had a problem. The nice ladies in the office will even hold my keys for me so I don't get back from a week SOTB and find myself standing at my RV & truck wondering where in Mejico I lost my keys
956 585 9093.
It's only 5 min to the Anzalduas crossing, and about 15 to 20 from the Los Ebanos crossing if you have not done that yet.
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I plan to just get mine at the border. You guys that have done his before recommend getting them beforehand?
Either way works.

Personally I find if I get them in advance, its one less thing I need to mess with at the border.
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