It seems like several folks have been trying the ol' ET450 lately, but seem to be running into problems on the final section from Apple Springs to Livingston (if run the traditional way). I am planning to head up to the Livingston Wal-Mart on Tuesday to scout it out. I'll try to run the section route I have backwards to see if it's still good, and try to find another way if it's not. If anyone wants to come along, I'm planning to be there around 0830, KSU around 0900. Hopefully, it'll just be a quick scout, so shouldn't take all day.