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What Happened in Pee Paw's Scooter Shop Today?
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Merry Christmas, y'all!
What's the white-ish grease you're using? Reminds me of Lubriplate.
What's the white-ish grease you're using? Reminds me of Lubriplate.
OldTLSDoug
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It is indeed lubriplate, for rebuilding outboard motors. Great assembly lube. Good eye Dave, Merry Christmas!
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Just don't leave Lubriplate in your engine for more than a month or so before you get it running!
I dries up, or can dry up, in a hot, dry garage.
Hot?
StromXTc
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You sure did a good job documenting this. Nice
OldTLSDoug
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GP, a couple of things, it actually is assembly lube and not Lubriplate 130 that I use to grease my Garands. Also, PPSS is climate controlled, currently she is about 64°F and when it gets warmer I keep her under 85°F. I used it in my Aprilia SXV550 motor and in my DR-Z434SM motor (twice) and had no drying issues. Usually get them together within a couple of weeks. Will hopefully start this one up shortly, just waiting for some Main Jets from JetsRUs. Good tip though, I spent years planning maintenance on Motor Operated Valve Actuators at the Nuclear Plant because grease gets dried up and needs to be replaced. Luckily, PPSS is a veritable vacation Spa compared to Texas Summer heat.
StromXTc
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Good enough for friggin nuke generators?
OldTLSDoug
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Yesterday, I buttoned up the engine in the W650. I can put oil in her now. Waiting on Main Jets to go a little richer so she will pull on top. Also, I am polishing the exhaust and it is coming out great. I am also doing another round of Evap-rust in the tank. There is actually very little rust in the tank, but the stuff seems to eat up the varnish in there quite well, so I am doing a few day soak to see if we can improve her some more.
As to the earlier Lubriplate discussion, this is what I used on the cam and gears and such.
And this is the awesome Lubriplate 130-A for your M1 Garand rifles and the like. Interesting that it has an expiration date. I will open her up and see if the grease is still viable today.
In the last week or so it has rained a little over 3" at PPSS.
We had some viruses running around the family, so a lot of our plans got re-arranged. So hopefully, we will get together for the family Christmas in a day or so. Next Tuesday I go back to work for 10 months. Should be a good time, of course I am sure I won't spend money on frivolous things like food or utilities.
Back to W650 stuff, I bolted the cam into the spare head. I had discovered some ground up bearings on the upper pinion bearing/carrier. Also in the first photo the intake valves on a cylinder are awful clean. So I flipped it over after the cam was bolted down, low and behold at least 2 intake valves are bent. Not the end of the world, I got shims and some minor parts out of her. Like I also said, the head taught me about how to repair/adjust/shim the valve drive system. So not a total loss, but definitely not a bolt in. Don't know if you can see it, but the valves have a good eccentric wobble when you spin them.
Actually, there is a hint of it in the photo below as the left hand valve appears to be "up" a little on the bottom.
This is with the cam installed, maybe I will post up a video in the future. But, the valve train in this one may be pure poo, but it served it's purpose and I repaired mine. Fair trade I'd say. When you buy used parts you never can tell.
Today I am sure I will do more fun and interesting things down here. I need to put some RootX through the septic lines (should be a hoot) and more polishing on the exhaust. I got the gaskets in and should be able to install it today if I get everything cleaned. Looks like all that is left is jetting the carbs, cleaning out the tank some more and then getting to ride. I am hoping in the next few days I get some riding in on her. I do really love the little bike. I also have a new headlight bucket to replace the one on the bike. It has some corrosion issues. I wasn't sure I could polish it out as the bucket is plastic, so I bought a NOS one for $50.00 off of ebay and it is indeed pristine. Just a little more fun and she will be a goer again. Woo Hoo!
As to the earlier Lubriplate discussion, this is what I used on the cam and gears and such.
And this is the awesome Lubriplate 130-A for your M1 Garand rifles and the like. Interesting that it has an expiration date. I will open her up and see if the grease is still viable today.
In the last week or so it has rained a little over 3" at PPSS.
We had some viruses running around the family, so a lot of our plans got re-arranged. So hopefully, we will get together for the family Christmas in a day or so. Next Tuesday I go back to work for 10 months. Should be a good time, of course I am sure I won't spend money on frivolous things like food or utilities.
Back to W650 stuff, I bolted the cam into the spare head. I had discovered some ground up bearings on the upper pinion bearing/carrier. Also in the first photo the intake valves on a cylinder are awful clean. So I flipped it over after the cam was bolted down, low and behold at least 2 intake valves are bent. Not the end of the world, I got shims and some minor parts out of her. Like I also said, the head taught me about how to repair/adjust/shim the valve drive system. So not a total loss, but definitely not a bolt in. Don't know if you can see it, but the valves have a good eccentric wobble when you spin them.
Actually, there is a hint of it in the photo below as the left hand valve appears to be "up" a little on the bottom.
This is with the cam installed, maybe I will post up a video in the future. But, the valve train in this one may be pure poo, but it served it's purpose and I repaired mine. Fair trade I'd say. When you buy used parts you never can tell.
Today I am sure I will do more fun and interesting things down here. I need to put some RootX through the septic lines (should be a hoot) and more polishing on the exhaust. I got the gaskets in and should be able to install it today if I get everything cleaned. Looks like all that is left is jetting the carbs, cleaning out the tank some more and then getting to ride. I am hoping in the next few days I get some riding in on her. I do really love the little bike. I also have a new headlight bucket to replace the one on the bike. It has some corrosion issues. I wasn't sure I could polish it out as the bucket is plastic, so I bought a NOS one for $50.00 off of ebay and it is indeed pristine. Just a little more fun and she will be a goer again. Woo Hoo!
OldTLSDoug
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Yesterday I popped over to Corsicana to take presents to the grandkids and hang a bit. Was a great time. Christmas this year has been a little complicated due to flu and such, so we work around it as much as we can. The highlight of the day was my youngest grandson riding the StayCyc with the battery in. He has been using it like a stryder bike for a while and it turns out he has awesome throttle control and can use the brakes. 4 yrs old, doing what the oldest just learned a year or so ago. He followed his Mom up and down the street and he thought that was the coolest thing ever. He has a set of Fox boots, but they have to send them back because clamp is broken, Santa missed that. The smile says it all. I got a facetime where he zoomed by several times. He is loving it. On one of the videos his older brother, Jake says to his Dad, "Hey, you didn't let me ride in the street, I had to stay on the sidewalk." His Dad said, "That's because you are crazy and he isn't". Very true, we call Jake "Send It!" cause that is what he does. The kid pins the throttle when in doubt. Absolutely commits to full speed every time, makes his learning curve steep, but we like to keep him away from solid objects. LOL. Anyway, was a great day of fun and love. I had a ball, being Pee Paw is a great job.
OldTLSDoug
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You know, if I had to put "Why do I ride?" in one picture, this would be it.
I'd email that to one of the poster places that'll print it poster sized for a few bucks. Hang it at the entrance where you see it each time you walk in.
If you come in kinda grumpy about whatever boogered device awaits you, that should fix it.
OldTLSDoug
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My daughter asked me to go ride with them yesterday. Of course, initially, I said no and it was too cold, etc. Then, I decided I would go. We met up in Mertens on 22 between Hillsboro and Corsicana. Brad was there with the MT-10 and GixxerJasen was there as well. So off we went. Ended up doing a loop through and around Waxahachie. I road home from Maypearl via FM916 to FM4 into Cleburne, then home. Was a great ride. I rode Jasen's "magical no clutch" FJR. The FJR's bars feel overly narrow to me. I rode the MT-10. Fun bike, stay above 7k RPM and she keeps your attention. Turns nicely and is very similar to the Super Duke 1290 R EVO in seat feel.
I was a little chilly, but Diana brought me a hoody I left at their place and my day was much improved. Did 203 miles all in and enjoyed the ride.
A couple of pics,
The Jasen selfie
The Diana Selfie (Don't say her head looks big, it's a thing)
The Brad Selfie
Finally, safe at the scooter shop, got home around 5:00 PM (1700) my shoulder (throttle/brake side) was killing me, a little old guy pain to make it count.
P.S. An astute observer will notice the String of Pearls plants hanging from the no-mar machine. They are thriving in the shop with minimal light and just a little water. The one in the foreground is blooming. Amazing how when they are left alone they do well. The squirrels seemed to enjoy nibbling them as well.
I was a little chilly, but Diana brought me a hoody I left at their place and my day was much improved. Did 203 miles all in and enjoyed the ride.
A couple of pics,
The Jasen selfie
The Diana Selfie (Don't say her head looks big, it's a thing)
The Brad Selfie
Finally, safe at the scooter shop, got home around 5:00 PM (1700) my shoulder (throttle/brake side) was killing me, a little old guy pain to make it count.
P.S. An astute observer will notice the String of Pearls plants hanging from the no-mar machine. They are thriving in the shop with minimal light and just a little water. The one in the foreground is blooming. Amazing how when they are left alone they do well. The squirrels seemed to enjoy nibbling them as well.
Good times yesterday, I got to ride all the bikes. The MT10 was fun but I do love me some LC8 engine. Riding Diana's bike running up the engine and looking at the dash made me want mine, because a little wind protection does go a long way. 
The stock FJR bars offer three mounting positions that move them forward and backwards, but only a very little bit. They didn't come back far enough for my short arms for long trips. I put on the MV Motorrad riser which move them up and back, but also allow you to adjust the sweep. They could easily be swept forward and outward for you, but I got them set where they work for me for back to back long days. That setup solved my back issues I was having with needing to be hunched over for long times with the stock setup. It's a sweet piece of kit and gives you a RAM mount as well.
OldTLSDoug
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Jasen, I like less, you know that. But I did enjoy the FJR, different but fun.
OldTLSDoug
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P.S. I rode the Super Duke because it had cruise control. Would have been fun to have the Vitpilen on a few of those curvy roads. Woo Hoo! I will get me some 990 and Vitpilen time today. Rode the TW200 the other day, that is still fun. Maybe I will put the Gas Gas a bit too so I can say I did. Wish those jets for the W650 would get here. I start working on Tuesday, so I will have a bit less play time.
Carpe diem rideum fastum!!
It was a fun ride day! The no clutch thing took some getting used to. Glad you toughened up and came out for a ride.
You ever get stuck in traffic with it, you'll LOVE it.
Oh yea, and I forgot to mention, I got to ride the MT-10 BEFORE Doug!
OldTLSDoug
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Actually I rode it first, out of the trailer, around the cul-de-sac back to the house...just in case Jasen was keeping score.You ever get stuck in traffic with it, you'll LOVE it.
Oh yea, and I forgot to mention, I got to ride the MT-10 BEFORE Doug!
OldTLSDoug
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For all you lovers of the W650 (yes, I am in that set of folks) I got my jets yesterday, probably Saturday, so this morning, after a bit more coffee, I will reassemble the bike and fire her up. Currently she has 118 mains, I bought 120, 122 and 125 mains, I will try the 122 and see how she goes. The pilot jets are 35, I will install the 38 and see how she runs. More to come...
That's not a real ride.
OldTLSDoug
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Don't be bitter...
OldTLSDoug
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So, I got the W650 running yesterday, and rode her about 2 miles (it was cold). She will pull past redline in all the gears now and I didn't get any oil on my foot either! I started off going up a size with the Main jets and the Pilot jets. Then I pulled the starter to get rid of the gunk and oil underneath it. Put her together, started right up, then the clip that holds the bevel drive in place popped out and she stopped. I had to call Jimmy the Scab and he came over and gave me the 3rd and 4th hands to finish it up. Took her for a spin and I am very happy.
Put in one size up on the mains from 118 to 120 and also the pilots up from 35 to 38 seems to work ok. We will see when I get a chance to ride a bit. Also, every gasket, o-ring, diaphragm and hose on the carbs is new. The jets, float needle, mixture screw were also replaced. These things work pretty well. Very happy so far.
Then I wanted to get the goo under the starter and popped it out. As you can see it also had a good bit of the old oil leak in there as well. Additionally, I found a blockoff for the mixture screws under there and initially thought someone had dropped a valve shim. But, I was wrong.
Pretty gnarly under there.
And she runs, idles nicely at 600-ish RPM and pulls strong off of the bottom. Runs really well when the cam spins. I took the picture on the lift while adjusting the idle down, couldn't see the tach, so I took a picture, sue me. As Mitch would have said, "First World problems"
Then Diana called and said, "Hey we need some waste oil for a science project for Carmen." I had lots, so I said come on. I pressurized my 20 gal oil storage and then neglected to tell Brad how fast I thought the gallon was filling. Apparently, he needed to learn the lesson I learned the first time I did it. It was pretty funny. Luckily, they had bought a bale of sawdust, so we got to try a practical experiment in soaking up oil. Worked a treat as they say.
This was about a quart of good old used motorcycle and car oil.
So, we began the sawdust experiment. Seems successful, I forgot I was wearing my jaunty hat.
Of course, Diana wanted to try her hand at cleaning oil with sawdust, not really, but she did participate. With her and Brad cleaning it was about a 15-20 minute cleanup and the lift was dirty anyway.
Then we needed just a little more and Brad and I decided that pouring it outside over the Johnson grass would be better if we had a second incident. We were right, but didn't spill.
Then I played a little football with the grandkids, then my wonderful wife Donna cooked us a pork loin and made 2 days worth of lunches for me. She is the best. I am about to get ready to go to work for the first time in 5 yrs. Amazingly, I am pretty excited about it, but I am sure it will become just like work again pretty quickly. But, I do enjoy teaching folks so that will be fun. Also, I love to buy motorcycles and stuff, so that will make it even more fun. LOL. Be safe, wear gear, do wheelies.
Put in one size up on the mains from 118 to 120 and also the pilots up from 35 to 38 seems to work ok. We will see when I get a chance to ride a bit. Also, every gasket, o-ring, diaphragm and hose on the carbs is new. The jets, float needle, mixture screw were also replaced. These things work pretty well. Very happy so far.
Then I wanted to get the goo under the starter and popped it out. As you can see it also had a good bit of the old oil leak in there as well. Additionally, I found a blockoff for the mixture screws under there and initially thought someone had dropped a valve shim. But, I was wrong.
Pretty gnarly under there.
And she runs, idles nicely at 600-ish RPM and pulls strong off of the bottom. Runs really well when the cam spins. I took the picture on the lift while adjusting the idle down, couldn't see the tach, so I took a picture, sue me. As Mitch would have said, "First World problems"
Then Diana called and said, "Hey we need some waste oil for a science project for Carmen." I had lots, so I said come on. I pressurized my 20 gal oil storage and then neglected to tell Brad how fast I thought the gallon was filling. Apparently, he needed to learn the lesson I learned the first time I did it. It was pretty funny. Luckily, they had bought a bale of sawdust, so we got to try a practical experiment in soaking up oil. Worked a treat as they say.
This was about a quart of good old used motorcycle and car oil.
So, we began the sawdust experiment. Seems successful, I forgot I was wearing my jaunty hat.
Of course, Diana wanted to try her hand at cleaning oil with sawdust, not really, but she did participate. With her and Brad cleaning it was about a 15-20 minute cleanup and the lift was dirty anyway.
Then we needed just a little more and Brad and I decided that pouring it outside over the Johnson grass would be better if we had a second incident. We were right, but didn't spill.
Then I played a little football with the grandkids, then my wonderful wife Donna cooked us a pork loin and made 2 days worth of lunches for me. She is the best. I am about to get ready to go to work for the first time in 5 yrs. Amazingly, I am pretty excited about it, but I am sure it will become just like work again pretty quickly. But, I do enjoy teaching folks so that will be fun. Also, I love to buy motorcycles and stuff, so that will make it even more fun. LOL. Be safe, wear gear, do wheelies.