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New Africa Twin debut?

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bmcdonau said:
I can't see why you'd buy the Africa Twin over the Tiger 800 XCx. I can't see the Honda being that much better that I'd give up the cruise control for those highway stretches between the dirt riding.
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Planning to ride in the boonies alot. Reliability is important!

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...iable-motorcycle/index.htm?userWantsFull=true

Yamaha, Suzuki, Honda, and Kawasaki are all among the more reliable brands.
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Triumph, Ducati, BMW, and Can-Am were among the more trouble-prone.
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Agree with both Kurt's and DS's observations. Sometimes it seems that ADV bikes have become the monster trucks of the motorcycle world - all show and nowhere to go. Anything over 400lbs wet and loaded is too heavy to lift out of the mud anyway, which is my only complaint about the Africa Twin. Honda has a deserved reputation for reliability and the aftermarket parts availability is about as good as it gets. I'll hold out for a street legal version of the CRF450 Rally if I hold our for a Honda.
 
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Meriden said:
Agree with both Kurt's and DS's observations. Sometimes it seems that ADV bikes have become the monster trucks of the motorcycle world - all show and nowhere to go. Anything over 400lbs wet and loaded is too heavy to lift out of the mud anyway, which is my only complaint about the Africa Twin. Honda has a deserved reputation for reliability and the aftermarket parts availability is about as good as it gets. I'll hold out for a street legal version of the CRF450 Rally if I hold our for a Honda.
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So you guys consider the AT a much more dirt oriented bike than the Tiger 800?
 
I've seen those comments about the Tiger 800 frame before. How do other manufacturers connect the rear sub-frame to the main frame?

How does the BMW F800Gs shock mount issue compare to the Tiger 800 frame issue? Seems to me most people think the BMW 800 is better in the dirt than the Tiger 800.

The worst thing about the Tiger for me was the incredibly tall 1st gear for dirt work. Get the front wheel stuck up against a berm or rock ledge and you had to use a lot of clutch and throttle to get clear.
 
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Meriden said:
Agree with both Kurt's and DS's observations. Sometimes it seems that ADV bikes have become the monster trucks of the motorcycle world - all show and nowhere to go. Anything over 400lbs wet and loaded is too heavy to lift out of the mud anyway, which is my only complaint about the Africa Twin. Honda has a deserved reputation for reliability and the aftermarket parts availability is about as good as it gets. I'll hold out for a street legal version of the CRF450 Rally if I hold our for a Honda.
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something like this maybe?
http://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/off-road/crf450x-2014/overview.html
 
bmcdonau said:
We don't get that?
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Again I like the disclaimer at the end. "Extended road use may invalidate warranty." :giveup:

I had a SL100.CB200,and the 400 Honda Hawk. All fun,the SL being the slowest of the slows. The Honda 400 twin was my main transportation foever. Honda makes good bikes but continues to make odd ball rides and drops them after they do not sell here.:doh:
 
kickstand~prophet said:
Again I like the disclaimer at the end. "Extended road use may invalidate warranty." :giveup:

I had a SL100.CB200,and the 400 Honda Hawk. All fun,the SL being the slowest of the slows. The Honda 400 twin was my main transportation foever. Honda makes good bikes but continues to make odd ball rides and drops them after they do not sell here.:doh:
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My SL-100 would go 70 Honda miles per hour with a 110 lb 14 year old on it. It was probably more like 62 mph in reality.
 
bmcdonau said:
My SL-100 would go 70 Honda miles per hour with a 110 lb 14 year old on it. It was probably more like 62 mph in reality.
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Mine was red and black. Fun to ride but a snail compared to the KE100 I rode also. The tire was really good at throwing gravel into the riders face behind you.:eek2:
 
bmcdonau said:
So you guys consider the AT a much more dirt oriented bike than the Tiger 800?
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I don't consider either one of them dirt worthy. Fire roads, yes, capable of unmaintained double and single track in rough country by an average rider, no. Caveat, I have some limited experience on the Tiger and none on the AT, so I'm basing that mostly on stats.

focus frenzy said:
something like this maybe?
http://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/off-road/crf450x-2014/overview.html
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Yes, that's much better than plating a US CRF (and it certainly makes Kurt's point.)
 
Meriden said:
I don't consider either one of them dirt worthy. Fire roads, yes, capable of unmaintained double and single track in rough country by an average rider, no. Caveat, I have some limited experience on the Tiger and none on the AT, so I'm basing that mostly on stats.



Yes, that's much better than plating a US CRF (and it certainly makes Kurt's point.)
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That's what I was thinking, when I asked why pick the AT over the Tiger when the Tiger is so similar as well as lighter and can be had with cruise. It's also probably why a lot of people don't worry about the shock mounts on the BMW or the sub-frame of the Tiger.
 
I'm really looking forward to sitting on the AT, but I've learned to love cruise control for highway riding.
 
Man, that was some gnarly dirt road off road! Other than the sweet jumps, I would have taken a Harley on all of that.

Did anyone else notice how they conveniently did not show the actual bikes when they landed from their airborne adventures? That isn't by accident.....
 
"Did anyone else notice how they conveniently did not show the actual bikes when they landed from their airborne adventures? That isn't by accident..... "

Probably not!
 
DFW_Warrior said:
Man, that was some gnarly dirt road off road! Other than the sweet jumps, I would have taken a Harley on all of that
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That was my exact though. The surfaces in that video are what this bike is designed for. That's not a bad thing - those look like a lotta dirt roads around my parts. No single-track, no rock hopping, no technical, rocky hill-climb. That's not a negative - it's an accurate description of what Honda expects this fella to be put through: comfortably doing 60 mph down a grated dirt road.
 
Jeff, those are my thoughts exactly. Despite everyone wanting a multi-cylinder dirt bike that can also gobble thousands of miles at a time, all while weighing in at 200lbs; I think Honda came up with a bike that will compete nicely with the Strom, BMW, KTM, Tenere, and so forth.

Now if they just won't price it higher than the BMW, while giving less features than the Strom, we will be in!
 
DFW_Warrior said:
Jeff, those are my thoughts exactly. Despite everyone wanting a multi-cylinder dirt bike that can also gobble thousands of miles at a time, all while weighing in at 200lbs; I think Honda came up with a bike that will compete nicely with the Strom, BMW, KTM, Tenere, and so forth.

Now if they just won't price it higher than the BMW, while giving less features than the Strom, we will be in!
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You broke Honda's marketing strategy for most bikes!
 
DFW_Warrior said:
Did anyone else notice how they conveniently did not show the actual bikes when they landed from their airborne adventures? That isn't by accident.....
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Dukes of Hazzard?

And Husky built that bike with the Terra but the new owner rather kill a Excellent bike than use a BMW engine.
 
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